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There is no proof except that a lot of early constructions look like pyramids.

These notions of aliens and utopian societies are nothing but fantasies.

If it was just the pyramid shape or design …….. I might agree with you.

But in actuality, the pyramid shape or design is of little significance relative to any beliefs or notions that the presence of an alien culture was in fact responsible for the building and/or construction that occurred at dozens n’ dozens of archeological sites around the world.

If the ancient people or cultures that we are familiar with and/or have historical records of , …… actually did the work, ….. actually did the constructing at said archeological sites, …….. then the first question is …….. where are the tools that they used to perform that work?

where are the tools that they used to perform that work?

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There's some. Their in great condition because they were found in a coral reef. We have thousands of Mayan stoneworking tools in museums.

And you would think if aliens came and taught us to build things it would something more difficult than a pyramid which, while impressive for the time, is essentially a giant pile of stone. Towers? Domes? Arches? Nope, just stone hills and walls.

The Egyptian tools and techniques for cutting limestone blocks are well known, the mystery is the manner in which they trasported stones to work sites and hauled them up the pyramid. The best theories all involve natural materials--ropes, wooden rollers, sledges, and lots of manpower, none of which would stand the test of thousands of years. Further, just like in modern construction, all of the catwalks and scaffolds would be removed at the completion of construction. Even then, some evidence remains: recent scholarship suggests that the Grand Gallery inside the largest pyramid served a construction pyramid, allowing the builders to use interior ramps rather than exterior ramps (such as were suggested by earlier reconstructions of the construction process).Finally, it is assumed that the plans for building the individual pyramids, outside of the fact that they would have been drawn on papyrus, would have been destroyed to protect against grave robbing, a problem then as now.

(#3.2) There's some. Their in great condition because they were found in a coral reef. We have thousands of Mayan stoneworking tools in museums.

Ian-2690048, I appreciate your response but, ……. but I was asking about “tool” tools and those pictured in that image you cited is equivalent to a plastic pail and shovel like a kid uses to build sandcastles on the beach.

Concerning the building of the Great Pyramid of Giza, try to picture a mountain of solid sandstone … and 10,000 “heyboys” with those pictured tools in their hands …… trying to extract (cut) 2.3 million plus (2,300,000+) perfectly squared multi-ton stone blocks ……. out of the side and/or off the top of that mountain of solid sandstone.

Thus, cutting and moving that stone is the 1^st “problem”, erecting them in a very exact and precise alignment and manner is the 2^nd “problem”.

And what a lot of people don’t think about is that the Great Pyramid was originally covered with white limestone “veneering” that formed a smooth outer surface. Which brings up the 3^rd “problem”, ……. cutting all those thousands of pieces of white limestone so that they matched the “stepped” sandstone sides of the pyramid ….. while maintaining that smooth outer surface. To accomplish that limestone veneering feat today, ..... even with all their modern tools available to them, ….. it would still surely n’ badly strain the “gizzard” of any architect and/or builder that attempted to do so.

(#3.2) And you would think if aliens came and taught us to build things it would something more difficult than a pyramid which, while impressive for the time, …….

Ian-2690048, I really don’t think the Great Pyramid was built to impress the people who lived 3,000 to 6,000 years ago because only its size would have impressed them. And thus it would not have been necessary or worthwhile for the builder of said to erect the Great Pyramid in such an exact and precise alignment and manner.

Me thinks the Great Pyramid was built to “stand the test of time”…… and thus to impress future generations of people … after they became knowledgeable enough to be impressed.

Ian-2690048, my theory is that the Great Pyramid, …. with its pure white limestone veneering and its exact and precise alignment, ….. was actually built to be used as a “scientific teaching aid” for educating the populace about the physical aspects of the earth and our solar system.

Because, …. you know what, …..Ian-2690048, ….. that pure white limestone veneering on the sides of the Great Pyramid ….. could have been used as one hell of a good per say Reflecting Telescope by anyone who chose to use it for said.

Geeeeze, via use of the daily, monthly, yearly records of the images of "heavenily bodies" as they trecked or tracked across the face of the pyramid, ....... the calculating of the motions and movements of celestial objects would have been “duck soup”.

HA, all four (4) faces of the the Great Pyramid just might have looked like a BIG sheet of Graph Paper to an interested observer.

Cheers

(#3.3) The Egyptian tools and techniques for cutting limestone blocks are well known, the mystery is ………………

mdnorcuss, the cutting of square/rectangular blocks of limestone or sandstone has really not been much of a problem during the past 3 to 5 thousand years or so.

And the real mystery is, …… how did the ancient people “cut n’ fit” the odd shaped blocks of stone they used in building their infrastructure?

And how did the ancient people “cut and/or drill” ….. precisely square grooves, channels, insets, etc., ….. and precisely round holes ……. in the stones they used in building their infrastructure?

Like that which is pictured and described …. here. mdnorcuss, take a “look-see” and maybe you can venture a guess as to how it was done.

And mdnorcuss, here following is another really good mystery for you to ponder, to wit:

The stone ruins of Puma Punku in the ancient city of Tiahuanaco, Bolivia. Defying logic, these stone structures amaze and confuse archaeologists because it is highly unlikely that any of the stones in Puma Punku were cut using ancient stone cutting techniques (see pictures on web site), at least not those of which we are aware. The stone structures in Puma Punku are made up of granite, and diorite. Interesting enough, the only other stone that is harder that those
two is the diamond.

It doesn't, and evolution doesn't either. What it does negate is that our earth is the center of the universe, and we humans are the pinnacle of Gods creation.

Basically what I think, little more than a blow to mankind's massive ego. I tend to agree with Dr. Kaku on the subject of ET though. I do find it funny that some believers in a unproven concept expect it to safe us from the believers of a unproven concept.

"It's humbling to realise that the developmental gulf between a miniscule ant colony and our modern human civilisation is only a tiny fraction of the distance between a Type 0 and a Type III civilisation – a factor of 100 billion billion, in fact. Yet we have such a highly regarded view of ourselves, we believe a Type III civilisation would find us irresistible and would rush to make contact with us. The truth is, however, they may be as interested in communicating with humans as we are keen to communicate with ants" (Michio Kaku, "Star Makers", Cosmos, February 2006).

This one I really like.

Let’s say that we’re walking down a country road and we see an anthill. Do you go down to the ants and say, “I bring you trinkets. I bring you beads. I give you nuclear energy. I give you ant paradise, ant utopia. Take me to your leader”? Is that what you tell them? Or do you have this urge to step on a few of them? If somebody’s building a ten-lane superhighway next to an anhill, would the ants know what a ten-lane superhighway was? Would they be able to communicate with the workers? Would they even know that these are humans who are building this thing? They’d be clueless, totally clueless. They wouldn’t know how to communicate. They wouldn’t know the frequencies, they wouldn’t know what a ten-lane superhighway was. They don’t know what a car is, they don’t know what a truck is.

The distance between ants and us is actually quite small compared to the distance between us and what is called a type-three civilization. So if there is a type-three civilization in our backyard, we wouldn’t even know. They could be right there. Ants just staring at a highway, wondering, what is this?

SamC, But if we have learned anything about history and ourselves, we would know better to study, observe such martians from afar or incognito, and not interfere. At least the smart technological ones.

Also it is a big universe, so as for getting any attention I think we have a lot of competition.

Viewer01, I am sure we will do that "studyin n' observin" just as soon as we achieve some of the technological expertise as envisioned by Gene Roddenberry et el in the Star Trek TV series.