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Zookeepers say that Buddy and Pedro, two African penguins are nearly inseparable and have shown signs of mating behaviors. They often mimic male and female courtship behaviors. For instance, Zookeepers say that every night the two pair off to sleep together.
Gay Penguins Split For Breeding (VIDEO) Love Denied: Relationship Fascinates Toronto Zookeepers
Seeded on Mon Nov 7, 2011 11:12 PM EST
Article Source: the Post Chronicle
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Love made in Heaven or Hell, depends if you believe in Darwin or the Devil.
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#1 - Mon Nov 7, 2011 11:14 PM EST
sad that they are splitting them.
however , let them use them for breeding ( if in fact they even want to breed with the opposite sex , they may refuse to ) then put them back together when done.
I don't however see why the penguins being gay should fascinate the zoo keepers since pretty much ever species has it's gay percent.
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#3 - Tue Nov 8, 2011 11:05 AM ESTI'm going to start by saying I'm not a "believer"... if you catch my drift.
Regardless whether nature or "god" made these two penguins what they are, MAN is killing the species off.
So once (and if...) they mate and make more penguins, cool.
THEN PUT THOSE GUYS BACK TOGETHER, for g-d's sake!!!!
(Don't mean to offend, just stating my opinion.)
you don't have to be a 'believer '
but facts are facts !!!
gay percentage in humans and animals is as natural and 'god' given as being straight.
US researchers find evidence that homosexuality linked to genetics
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/01/homosexuality-genetics-usa
Most geneticists consider sexual orientation a phenotype -- namely, an observable set of properties that varies among individuals. Although physical phenotypes like height and weight are easier to quantify, behavioral phenotypes are intensely studied in animals and humans. Research from many directions leads to a strong conclusion: Human sexual orientation has deep biological roots.
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Moreover, the empirical evidence for the role of genetics in human sexual orientation has been quietly but steadily mounting over the last 15 years. Studies of twins -- the mainstay of quantitative human genetics -- have been conducted on large populations in three countries. The results unambiguously demonstrate that heritability plays a major role in sexual orientation and far outweighs shared environmental factors such as education or parenting....
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There have been other surprises. One is the importance of epigenetics -- changes that alter gene expression without a change in the DNA code of an affected gene. This is evidenced by the lopsided number of maternal versus paternal factors in male sexual orientation and by unusual patterns of DNA modification in mothers of gay men. Epigenetic changes may also explain the finding that a male's probability of being gay is increased by his number of older brothers.
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Although these factors are neither genetic in the traditional Mendelian sense nor fully understood, they are still biological and affect phenotype in an involuntary manner. Who chooses his number of older brothers?
All of these findings demand the conclusion that most gay people no more choose their sexual orientation than most heterosexuals. ("Most" is used here to indicate that -- like almost everything biological -- these are statistical data and do not apply uniformly.) This conclusion is also consonant with our memories: Most of us were stunned as unsuspecting adolescents to discover our sexual orientation -- heterosexuals and homosexuals alike.
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/23/opinion/la-oe-rosbash23-2010feb23
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homosexuality , heterosexuality .... sexuality in general is like a coin , just two different sides.
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Ripley8,
Unfortunately, a word like "epigenetics" is largely lost on this crowd. I've only been here a week or so (and, as a Southerner, can play dumb...)... but I fear you're you're wasting you time with a lot of folk here.
Take your choice: science (fact), of belief (faith).
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African black footed penguins often lay 2 eggs but can only care for one.
The Bronx zoo had two males that the keepers gave a "spare" egg to and they raised the chick successfully! Taking turns caring for the egg and chick once hatched.
This incident was turned into a children's book called "And Tango Makes Three". It's very sweet.
These two must be genetically VERY valuable for the keepers (who want what is best for their wards) to decide on a split instead of an adoption scenario.
Because of expense and quarantine issues.....they may or may not see each other again- BUT maybe they will find new boyfriends and still be just as happy.
Since both male and female penguins have cloaca (No vagina. No penis) I don't think people should be that thrown by this. Physically males and females are externally very similar.
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#5 - Wed Nov 9, 2011 12:11 AM ESTI hope this doesn’t end in heartbreak like the last penguin couple. They started a family, built a nest together only for the other one to leave his penguin husband for another lady penguin once their chick was old enough to look after itself the tramp! Bi-Penguins…Watch out for them, they’re tricky :)
#6 - Wed Nov 9, 2011 8:50 AM ESTI feel that it's obvious to the keepers that they want to be with one another and I don't feel it's necessary to split them up. I understand we dont want the species to die off, so that is fine try making babies with them. Then if it does or doesn't work, they should put the two love penguins live happily ever after. I have seen animals get depressed when thier mate male/female and that definately would not be fair or right for the penguins. *love on guys*
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#7 - Wed Nov 9, 2011 10:34 AM ESTIs it really necessary to split them up, are two dna samples really going to doom the species?
If not let them be.
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